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Nicknamed "King James", he is widely acknowledged as one of, if not the greatest player in the sport's history and is frequently compared with Michael Jordan in debates over who is the greatest basketball player of all time. Anonymous7432 (talk) 20:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. The copy you have specified already appears almost verbatim in the lead; no need to change "recognized" to "acknowledged" as in this usage they are synonymous. "if not the greatest player" is pure WP:PUFFERY. He either is or he isn't, and we would need a consensus of reliable sources to describe him as such versus "one of the greatest." General IzationTalk 21:06, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's not like Michael Jorden is the only other player vying for GOAT as Wilt Chamberlain is often said to be the all-time best. Several others could also carry that mantel so it is best to leave the names out of that sentence. It really shouldn't even be in the lead as GOAT is water-cooler stuff best left to a subjective legacy section, not an encyclopedic lead. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Our own Chamberlain article says it with sources that he is often regarded as greatest ever. Why would we limit it to Michael Jordan here and treat it as pov? The line is one thing, though I would never put it in the lead, but it should not mention names other than James. Whether it's tv shows, or press articles, or Basketball Network articles, or the NBA, Wilt is as a great a player as ever stepped on a court. To write it's between LeBron and Jordan is water-cooler stuff that is a disservice to an encyclopedia. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:57, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While I think it's best to include all "greatest" water cooler stuff in a legacy section, and not the lead section, I'm not going to fight that. But that sentence should be changed to something like "he is widely recognized as one of the greatest players in the sport's history and is in the conversation of greatest basketball player of all time." To me that sums it up the best. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"in the conversation" is an understatement. It's probably closer to what The Athletic wrote in 2022:
For years, the debate has been Michael or LeBron? LeBron loses that one more than he wins, but he still has the chance to change more minds."[1]
The trick is to find enough other sources to back something like this up as not just a one-off opinion, especially if it's in the lead. —Bagumba (talk) 07:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The claim on Wilt's page relies on dated and not the most reliable sourcing. It also uses the WP:OR trick of claiming something happens "often" by merely citing some examples, none of which claims that they evaluated it to happen "often".—Bagumba (talk) 07:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To write it's between LeBron and Jordan is water-cooler stuff that is a disservice to an encyclopedia. FWIW, the current wording doesn't say the GOAT discussion is exclusively between them, just that the two are often compared against each other (as much because they're non-centers). —Bagumba (talk) 07:25, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done. This is not a valid edit request, 29gullwya. Your account needs to be at least four days old, and you need to have made at least ten edits. Then, you can edit semi-protected articles. Cullen328 (talk) 16:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd wager that it's because those are relatively minor accomplishments given the scale of everything else he's achieved. It's probably something better spun-off into List of career achievements by LeBron James, which I now see does list him as holding the record for most Player of the Month and Week awards (though it's uncited - NBA Player of the Month and Week includes the fact with a citation to a dead linked ESPN article, and I can't find it confirmed elsewhere with a quick search). DrOrinScrivello (talk) 21:44, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
level-4 vital article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. The copy you have specified already appears almost verbatim in the lead; no need to change "recognized" to "acknowledged" as in this usage they are synonymous. "if not the greatest player" is pure WP:PUFFERY. He either is or he isn't, and we would need a consensus of reliable sources to describe him as such versus "one of the greatest." General Ization Talk 21:06, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done: The sentence is under the 2024-2025 heading, so that mention is unnecessary, and I don't think the reordering of the 'NBA' wording is needed.— Preceding unsigned comment added by DrOrinScrivello (talk • contribs) 17:13, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Done Looking through the rest of the article, I see your point and have implemented the request. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 20:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
